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Re: I am a new moodle installer and I need help please?

April 10, 2024, 12:07 pm
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by AL Rachels.  

I have three sites running on IONOS and they are a pain in the backside, and I suspect that the next version or so of Moodle might be impossible. I am gradually moving to a self hosted setup using a business account with Spectrum. (it is sooo much faster) I might be able to help you, but due to eye problems I tend to limit my "screen" time. It would be easiest for me to do some sort of video call so we can screen share. My Skype ID is in my profile. Other methods can be negotiated, if needed.

You might just need to do the IONOS directions found here: https://docs.moodle.org/403/en/Apache

You have to be careful depending on the type of contract you have with IONOS. IF it is shared hosting, they give unlimited space, BUT NOT unlimited file names. Their fix is going to add HUNDREDS of file names, and consequently, I had to REMOVE a lot of stuff I was storing there. Running my own in-house 4TB NAS for storage, now.
 
I'll be online for at least another two hours today, from the time this gets posted.
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Re: User is getting message that "No data was changed"

April 10, 2024, 1:14 pm
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by Howard Miller.  

Which version of Moodle? Can you explain in more detail what they did that resulted in this message? And, also, what did they expect to happen?

Is this uploading from a CSV file? It's quite easy to get these files wrong. If so, please attach a short file that exhibits this problem. 

IMPORTANT: Please anonymise any real data!!
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Re: I am a new moodle installer and I need help please?

April 10, 2024, 4:38 pm
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by colin smith.  

Thanks for replying Al, as you are in the US when is a good time for you GMT, as I am in the UK?
I use the team now we can set up a meeting Via that I have your email so I will send you a message.
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Re: User is getting message that "No data was changed"

April 10, 2024, 9:25 pm
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by Binoy Chacko.  

Thanks, the version Moodle 4.1 (Build: 20221128) this happens when the user tries to safe the grades of the Forum. 

User complains that the grades are not being saved as well. 

Regards 

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How to access a Moodle installed on a cloud using Public/External IP Address on HTTP

April 11, 2024, 12:29 am
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by Ram Has.  

Hello Community,

I am new to Moodle world, and I have a question about setting up a network for a server hosting a Moodle.

Unfortunately, I am unable to access Moodle properly because I don't have DNS or SSL configured. Is there a way I can access the website over HTTP from a public/external IP address, perhaps through a work VPN or another computer connected to the internet? Currently, the images on the moodle welcome page are not loading, and I'm unable to log in. Basically, the page is not functioning, and it looks like this Currently, it looks like this:
In which Moodle file should I change some configuration? Are there any ideas how to configure the network on the cloud as well? I am very thankful for every help.

The page currently looks like this.



Kindest regards!



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Cluster shared storage

April 11, 2024, 1:57 am
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by Daniel Nor.  

We are configuring a clustered Moodle setup with separate loadbalanced PHP and NGINX nodes. Running hardware database cluster to connect it.
The question comes down to the shared storage. NFS seems to be not reccomended, and it is very slow. What is the alternatives reccomended by Moodle?

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Re: Cluster shared storage

April 11, 2024, 4:38 am
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by Howard Miller.  

I'm not sure why you think NFS is not recommended. NFS is fine. However, don't rely on it for anything performance critical. This is likely to come down to the Moodle Cache. Implement a Redis server for that and you should be fine.
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Re: How to access a Moodle installed on a cloud using Public/External IP Address on HTTP

April 11, 2024, 5:01 am
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by Ken Task.  

Big problem ..
"Unfortunately, I am unable to access Moodle properly because I don't have DNS or SSL configured"
It's not wise to allow access to any .... ANY ... web server running any applications without DNS or a valid SSL/TLS certificate.

Mind sharing what is in the config.php file for the site:
wwwurl variable

Also, what the IP address is of the server?

Class C: 192.168.0.0 to 192.168.255.255
An IP address within these ranges is therefore considered non-routable, as it is not unique. Any private network that needs to use IP addresses internally can use any address within these ranges without any coordination with IANA or an Internet registry. Addresses within this private address space are only unique within a given private network.

All addresses outside these ranges are considered public

If your server is in your home network, to be accessible from the outside world,
a public IP address and a fully qualified domain name with a valid https certificate
is a must.

IF your server is in your home network, you could try setting up a noip.

https://www.noip.com/

If your server is hosted with a hosting provider, please share what provider.
(name ... like hostgator, digitalocean, etc.)

All the above is really outside the scope of these forums.

Moodle doc that might apply:
https://docs.moodle.org/403/en/Masquerading

'SoS', Ken

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Re: Cluster shared storage

April 11, 2024, 5:17 am
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by Daniel Nor.  

Thank you for your feedback. What do you mean by "performance critical". If it is, what should you rely on? It will be used to hosting alot of clients and we are in need of a performant and redundant setup.
We experience alot of read and write when using NFS, slowing everything down. Does this come down to Moodle Caching?
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How do enable 'edit mode' on by default when the users login

April 11, 2024, 6:06 am
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by Binoy Chacko.  

I have a requirement, where the 'edit mode' should on by default when the users login.  Is it possible? Please see the attached image. 

edit mode on

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Re: I am a new moodle installer and I need help please? - SOLVED

April 11, 2024, 9:14 am
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by AL Rachels.  

Making this as solved. Colin reached out to IONOS and they performed the steps linked to in my previous entry, for him and got the site running. Just had about a half-hour Skype video call with screen shares to show him a few other items he had questions about.

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Re: Cluster shared storage

April 11, 2024, 11:10 am
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por Howard Miller.  

Sorry if I wasn't clearer. Moodle relies heavily on caching. By default, it will use files in wherever your 'moodledata' resides. If this is NFS then, yes, your site will probably be very slow. For anything beyond a trivial site you should implement a "proper" cache. There are alternatives but Redis is well-used and does a good job.

Once you have that in place, NFS should be absolutely fine. Even for very large sites. 
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April 11, 2024, 2:14 pm
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por Piotr F.  

Ken, thanks a lot.

I did this:
In your Webmin, MySQL tool, use the DB for the moodle and edit mdl_config_plugins table.
You will be able to recognize which rows to delete.

Just for other lamers might be useful, I had to search for
mdljv_config_plugins

Now, all is clear, no messages "to be deleted".
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April 11, 2024, 3:06 pm
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por Ken Task.  

@Piotr F
Congrats!   And correction ... not a lamer but a learner! sonrisa

And for others ... a teachable moment ... mdljv_ is a prefix ... which can be seen in config.php of the site.

Typically, if left at default, that would have been mdl_ ... but as we can see, in OP's case, it is
mdljv_.

Again ... Congrats!

'SoS', Ken

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Upgrade in wsl2 using command line tool

April 12, 2024, 9:28 pm
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by xiaoyu yuan.  

So the today is 2024.04.13. I want to download most recent moodle using command line tool to upgrade.

I can see in the download page, it is 4.4 Beta now. I thought using command line upgrade would update moodle 4.4 from 20231207 version to moodle 4.4 beta version (20240412). But when I using upgrade.php, it shows no upgrade needed. Is the php file working properly?


..[$] <()> /usr/bin/php upgrade.php  

No upgrade needed for the installed version 4.4dev (Build: 20231207) (2023120700). Thanks for coming anyway!

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Odp: Plugins to be delete during upgrade

April 12, 2024, 10:56 pm
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by Piotr F.  

So that was also my case, which I have realized just now:

I had a test server (shared, Moodle 3.9 installed via Softaculous), and then all Moodle has been moved to a separate production VPS.
Right away after the transfer, I upgraded Moodle to 4.x.

That was the reason these rows existed in DB.
Maybe it will be helpful for anybody else.

Thanks a lot, amazing thread for me, discovered Webmin too. smile
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Re: I am a new moodle installer and I need help please? - SOLVED

April 13, 2024, 2:23 am
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by colin smith.  

Thanks for your help Al I have asked them to Upgrade my Post_max_size to 500mb along with Upload_max_file time and the max_excute_time to 600mins my fingers are crossed that works but before I checked, I forgot to get them to increase the Max_input_var to 10000 and I tried to import a new Theme from Plugin Directory and Diary the plugin you mentioned but got the page below. 

I asked Ionos to up the Max_input_var to 10000 but I still keep getting this page when I try to do anything what am I doing wrong now sir? 


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Re: Upgrade in wsl2 using command line tool

April 13, 2024, 5:23 am
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How long does it take to prepare upgrading moodle?

April 13, 2024, 6:12 am
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by Eric Eric.  

Considering training and testing period, for training 200 staffs, how long is usually take to upgrade Moodle 3.x to 4.x?
Any suggestions?
Thanks

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Re: I am a new moodle installer and I need help please? - SOLVED

April 13, 2024, 9:37 am
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by AL Rachels.  

Hi Colin,

Sorry to take so long to get online today. I have two distractions going on this morning - laundry day (ugh) and watching, The Masters.

With IONOS, usually when I keep getting that page, it is due to permissions. Even though the same owner and group for the account gets listed, I find that when I have manually made changes with something like WinSCP, I still need to go and set the owner, group, and permissions recursively for both the data and code folders.

Note: As mentioned in our Skype call, you can ignore that opcache.enable check and if possible, just proceed with the upgrade, if that is what is shown at the bottom of that page.

Another note: As I will be online watching golf, you are welcome to call if you want too.

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